Hillary Clinton visits Washington

Secondly, you say you support conservative values. Well, if you have taken the time to study yourself, you would take a look at the annual Presidents Economic Report which lists a whole load of stats for your conservative mind. Now, one of the ideals of conservative governance and the basis of their fiscal policy is to reduce the size of spending, government expenditure, balance budgets and the like, but if you look at the reports issued by our own economic advisors as commissioned by the president himself you would see that every Republican president has incurred deficit spending and has actually exponentially increased the national debt. Now, if you look at the record of all Democrat presidents since the time of Roosevelt you would see that we actually had less deficit spending and where able to cut into the American debt. NO REPUBLICAN PRESEIDENT can claim such a record despite their party platform. They have overspent, colluded with corporate powers and engaged in a myriad of economically oppressive series of war (note: latin america, history and it is our history of economic colonialism). If we want to talk about conservatives we can extend this argument of corporate collusion and look at Cheney’s dealing with the various energy conglomerates in the US who sought to determine a national energy policy, or your conservative values of outing CIA operatives, conducting torture against unconvinced terrorists (even though we helped draft the Human Rights Deceleration). Sorry, guy, but you party is a bunch of hypocrites and are counter to the real ideals of America.

Now, no one is saying that Saddam was some great guy. I see nothing of that in Crystals comments, but we have an international system that WE the U.S. established call the UN Security Council post WWII and we devised the rules of engagement, along with the prescriptions for human rights, international adjudication and the protection of sovereignty based upon the Westphalia system established after the religious wars of Europe.

Now, if you recall we were debating the issue of giving Saddam another 30 days to allow inspectors full access (remember the pretext for war was not the humanitarian issues you claim but the presence of WMD and the imminent threat to national security) and even the French had agreed with this 30 day stay of execution before invasion in order to ascertain the existence of WMD, yet we snubbed the French and went in anyway. The French did say they would support military action after the 30 day period was over if Saddam was to show continued resistance to the inspection process. We ignored that and in our haste we entered into a conflict. Without the support of the international system that we had helped erect

BTW, Saddam was never associated with Al’Queda but obviously you aren’t schooled in history or have a bad case of selective memory, but you associate Saddam with terrorists and you are fundamentally wrong and even the CIA would call you ill-informed. In fact the CIA on numerous occasions questioned the rationale for war. The conservative apparatus lied and to me that is a treasonable offense!

The government is supposed to be representation of the electorate not some stupid cowboy with an agenda!

BTW, people in the US die everyday due substandard health care availability, ever look at the Human Development Report presented by the UNDP, all the countries with socialized health care have the best health standards and we are ranked near the 20th out of all so-call developed countries. Do you really think this is acceptable? I think it is morally abhorrent that the most wealth in all the world can’t be number 1 when it is left to Finland Norway and Sweden to figure out how to promote growth and provide health for the people.

Seriously what is an economy for? Just to make wealth and continually increase it at the expense of your citizens and on the backs of other developing countries?

Ummm, no! It is about providing the means for society to realize the benefits of growth and development which means, education, health, freedom of fear of war, political participation and so on! The economy is meant to provide a means to an end, not be an end unto itself. Otherwise we are all just cogs in someone else wheel.